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Beyond the Classroom: Discovering Voice and Vision in Copywriting

• Melissa Franklin • Season 4 • Episode 1

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Season Four of Structuring Chaotic Minds is all about celebrating educators who venture into new spaces—and still make a difference. In this premiere, host Melissa Franklin sits down with Stacy Eleczko, a former teacher turned website and sales copywriter with a passion for strategic brand messaging (and no shady marketing!). Through her deep dive approach, Stacy helps purpose-driven businesses stand out, connecting them with their ideal clients by defining a unique brand story and crafting copy that’s both relatable and compelling.

What sets Stacy apart? She loves working with “good people doing good things,” bringing clarity, authenticity, and genuine impact to every collaboration—without any hype or gimmicks. From one-to-one services and done-with-you programs to brand messaging strategy, website copy, and email marketing, Stacy’s ultimate goal is simple: to position you as the go-to choice while staying true to who you are. And with her background in education, she’s got an edge in creating training and speaking opportunities that resonate.

Ready to transition your own skills beyond the classroom—or simply curious how to capture (and keep!) the attention of your dream clients? Tune in for an inspiring conversation on building brand messaging that feels good, sells well, and is anything but “sales-y.”

Key Takeaways:

  • Leveraging transferable teaching skills in entrepreneurship and marketing
  • Evoking empathy in brand messaging vs. resorting to manipulative tactics
  • Defining the unique brand story that sets you apart in a crowded market
  • Why teachers’ knack for coaching and connection makes for standout copy

Connect with Stacy on LinkedIn:
linkedin.com/in/copybystacy

Join us as we discover how educators—and anyone passionate about making an impact—can transform chaos into structured success, one authentic story at a time!


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Melissa Franklin:

Hello everyone and welcome back to Structuring Chaotic Minds. I'm your host, melissa Franklin, and this is season four that we are kicking off. I am so excited for this season's theme Finding your Voice Beyond the Classroom. This season, we're exploring how educators have taken their skills and voices into those new fields. They're tackling challenges and finding fresh ways to make a new impact.

Melissa Franklin:

Today, we're joined by someone who has a very unique journey to share. Her name is Stacey and she specializes in websites and sales copyright. She left her role as an educator years ago. In her work, she has seen firsthand the pressures that teachers face and has made it her mission to bring clarity, purpose and authenticity to her clients' brand messaging, without adding high stress or extra tactics that are unnecessary. Stacey now partners with purpose-driven businesses, helping them capture the attention of their ideal clients and building long-lasting connections. Welcome to Structuring Chaotic Minds, the podcast where we turn the chaos of everyday challenges into structured success. I'm your host, melissa, and each episode we'll explore innovative strategies, real-life stories and actionable insights to help you navigate the complexities of leadership, business and personal growth. Whether you're an entrepreneur, a leader or someone striving for personal development, this podcast will give you the tools to create clarity in the chaos. Let's dive in. Welcome, stacey. We're so glad to have you here today.

Stacy Eleczko:

Thank you, Melissa. I'm so excited to be here and excited to kick off this season with you.

Melissa Franklin:

Let's go ahead and start with your journey. Stacey. You made a big shift from coaching teachers in the work that you're doing into moving over to brand messaging and website development. What inspired you to make that transition, and how did your experience in education actually impact your approach that you have with your clients today?

Stacy Eleczko:

Yeah, great question. So you know, I think, like a lot of educators, I had been disenchanted with the public education system and my role for a while and I had been looking for other alternatives and everything either seemed to be I needed to go into corporate, which did not feel like a good fit for me, or even jobs that felt like they might be an okay fit was either a massive pay cut for me or would require me to go back to school. So I had actually gotten to a point where I decided I'm going to have to finish out my career in the classroom, had sort of resigned myself to the fact that I'm just going to have to do this. And then I was sitting on the couch one night and mindlessly scrolling on Facebook, as one does, and I saw an ad for a copywriting course and I clicked on the ad, didn't know what copywriting was at the time, and I started reading about it and I was like, oh my gosh, this sounds like all of the things that I love doing, that I'm passionate about, care about, and I don't have to go get another degree to do this.

Stacy Eleczko:

And so I literally was looking at my husband. I'm like I'm going to be a copywriter and he goes okay, sounds great. And the next day I just I started. I didn't really know what I was getting into. Thought you know never in a million years that I think I'd be an entrepreneur. Thought you know never in a million years that I think I'd be an entrepreneur. But it really did end up being just this perfect marriage of my skill set and the flexibility and freedom that I didn't have as an educator.

Melissa Franklin:

I really do. I think I love the most the flexibility part that we just didn't expect. When you were working with teachers, you saw the kind of stresses that they face every day, and I know you felt like you were actually contributing to that stress at times. How did that particular experience, though, shape your outlook to where now it's influenced how you help your clients today?

Stacy Eleczko:

Yeah. So I mean, I think, just like in education and business, it's stressful right. There are all of these outside factors and influences, and in both you always have to look at what's the part that I can control right, what's the part that's within my control, and what's the part that's outside of my control. And so one of the things that I help business owners do is figure out what parts of your process are you not controlling because you don't have a clear messaging strategy. So a lot of my process are you not controlling because you don't have a clear messaging strategy.

Stacy Eleczko:

So a lot of my clients are frustrated because they're getting unqualified leads, they're wasting all these times on discovery calls, their sales cycles are really long, they're getting burnt out, stressed out, just like teachers, right, they feel like they're spinning their wheels all the time, and so I'm able to help them sort of hone in and figure out what the pieces are that could potentially be the problem, and then, once we figure out what we need to work on, I can take that off the plate for them. I feel like with education, I was never really able to take something off the teacher's plate. I could try, right, I could do a little thing here or there. But with this I can help business owners understand like what's the missing piece for them and then how I can help them solve that and just give them a kind of clarity that they can't always get. You know, when you're in your own business it's hard to to see the forest for the trees, as they say.

Melissa Franklin:

I love that I'm not trying to encourage educators to leave, because that's not what we want, but I love that you're framing it so kind of diving deeper. We're going to move into building transparency and authentic messaging. One thing that sets you particularly apart is your commitment to having that authentic, transparent messaging, especially in voiding those high pressure tactics that are pretty common with marketing. Could you share more about that transparency and what it looks like in your approach? Why is that important?

Stacy Eleczko:

Yeah, and I think so. There's sort of two ways I think about this. So one is, like you talked about those gimmicky, shady sales tactics, right. Things like fake scarcity, you know, like you have to purchase this thing now. And the most common one I see and the one I think that relates to education the most is this over agitation of pain points, right. So, yes, it's important in marketing to evoke emotion, right, that's how we connect with things, and if you don't connect with your target audience, you're not going to convert them into sales.

Stacy Eleczko:

But there's a difference between evoking emotion and exploiting emotion. Ooh, yeah, do you want me to say that again? Right, huge difference. When you're evoking emotion, you're getting people to relate, right. When you're exploiting emotion, you're digging in at something that's already really a problem for them. We already know what our problems are, right. We need to know how can you help me solve this problem and how can you help me make this problem better, and so that's the kind of thing that I really like to help my clients avoid.

Stacy Eleczko:

When it comes to those shady practices, we don't ever want the person sitting on the other side of the screen because there's someone on the other side of the screen right.

Stacy Eleczko:

We don't ever want them to feel negative or bad about themselves. We want to show them I'm evoking your emotion because I understand and I can relate and I have empathy, and so that's an important piece for me. And then the other piece that I think again also just dawned on me really does relate to education, is this idea of all perspectives being heard and marketed to. So when you have a target audience, it's really important. You have to be obsessed with your clients. You have to know exactly what drives them and what motivates them and what motivates their decisions, and we need to be able to holistically look at that audience. So if I'm targeting women coaches right, am I getting women coaches across the spectrum when I'm thinking about race and gender and socioeconomic status and, you know, disability or any of those things? Because we tend to be exclusive instead of inclusive in our marketing too? So I think it's really important that we do both of those things.

Melissa Franklin:

I think we'll bring you on for another episode at another time. There's going to be other topics we can talk about in this. You just named something for me too, as a teacher like why was I so effective? Because I knew how to speak to that pain point for those kiddos and the only reason I actually don't think I exploited it, rather than I resonated because I was that kid and that's why I actually do what I do, which is why I love what you do.

Melissa Franklin:

You help other people find their why and like stick to that authenticity and that messaging to say like hey, we're not trying to annoy you and just basically tell you you suck as a person rather than draw awareness to there's an issue, like can we do something about it? Or there is a situation if you want something different? Here's the awareness and I love that, because a lot of people are too busy trying to make a conversion on the sale that they sell too much on the pay points and too much on the scarcity, and you're not wrong, it works, yeah, but is that really what we wanted to make in the change and just more money in our pockets, or did we want to make an impact? And I think that makes a difference. So when you work one-to-one with clients, you're building websites, helping them define their brand and messaging. What process do you use to help them find that core message that really resonates with that audience?

Stacy Eleczko:

Yeah, absolutely so. It's a lot. It's a lot of the work up front. It's really helping under them understand, first figuring out what makes them tick right, what, as business owners, is important to them. So we always start with conversations about missions and vision and values, like what's your goal, what are you hoping to achieve and what is essential to how you do business, what's non-negotiable for you? You know, what are you for, what are you against? And so once we've defined those things, then we can start to think about now who are you serving and what's important to them. We really have to dig in and understand our audiences. What are their hopes, what are their desires, what are their motivations? What are they? You know? What are they hoping to gain? What are they avoiding? What do they want to, you know, not lose, or what do they want to lose? But we've got to figure out what exactly are those things that are triggering. What BS are they trying to get rid of? Pretty much right Like what's this baggage I need to shed?

Melissa Franklin:

That was good. It sounded very, very distinguished like polite and kind in the process. But you're not wrong. That's. That's really what a lot of people want, and I love that you're speaking to what a lot of the people don't want to admit.

Stacy Eleczko:

They really need to separate. I think that, yeah, and I think that's another thing. So many of my clients come to me and they think that they need one thing right, or they want one thing, but once we dig in, it's really something else. And I think that's where my background as an instructional coach is so critical, because I understand how to post questions to get people to think about, to think in a different way right, to see different perspectives, and so that's been a big help, because a lot of times I'm on calls with clients and you can see that shift when it happens, when they have this realization and they're like, oh my gosh, I've never thought about my business in this way before and it's, it's amazing. I love being part of that. So I'm like, oh, this is, I'm just, you know, pulling in some of my coaching tools.

Melissa Franklin:

Something you just pointed out was the you know how to ask the right questions. Isn't it so funny as coaches, we don't give the advice, we ask the questions because they already know the answer. And it's funny as a coach, you don't have to give directives, you don't have to manage people, you just get to light a fire underneath them and be like, hi, but you're still coaching, just in a different aspect, like it's not a title of coach, but it's now this piece and it's been there because for years you could help them unlock that and now you've taken those practices of being a coach and putting them there into your one-to-one services. But I love it.

Melissa Franklin:

Um, it's finding that right stuff that a lot of people don't want to talk about. So, thinking about that, let's kind of transition back to educators and finding their voices in the classroom, cause that's really what we're focused on this season. Yes, teachers who are specifically transitioning and they want to communicate their unique skills and their experiences. A lot of them probably feel like they're underdeveloped or they don't have the skills and that sort of stuff. I know I felt like that when I first started. What advice would you give to somebody in that space to help them feel more confident?

Stacy Eleczko:

Yeah, I mean, I 100% felt like that. I was like what skills do I have that are transferable? And once you're out of the classroom, it's like what skills do I not have that were transferable? Because, as teachers right, we do everything as educators and we just we don't know how to frame it in that way, right. But when I look at what I'm doing as a copywriter, as a brand messaging strategist, I'm like these are all tools that I really fine tuned in my education career and so I think it's. You know, we just have to think bigger and outside of the.

Stacy Eleczko:

What is the actual skill? But what does that skill help me accomplish or achieve? So, for example, you know, teachers, we look at data all the time in the classroom and you use that data to make informed decisions and to guide your next steps, and that helps you to make sure that you're responding to your students in a way that's going to help them grow. It's the same thing in our marketing and in our messaging. It's what's working, what's not working, what shifts can I make so that I can continue to make progress toward reaching my customers, towards reaching their goals? And so, regardless of whether you're going into copywriting or not, you have skill sets and I think it's just starting to figure out and you know what is the.

Stacy Eleczko:

Why is the thing that? This thing that I did in the classroom, why did that matter? Right, so I have this skill, so what? What does that mean? And now, how might it benefit other people? And I think it's also just getting in conversations with people outside of education, because it's a whole new world out here. It really is right, You've got to talk to people.

Melissa Franklin:

I feel so played. I'm not even this is not to insult my fellow entrepreneurs and business owners and founders but I feel so played, knowing all the years that I stuck into education because teachers and educators are resourceful. Yes, when there's no money, there's no way. You're in charge, you don't have a choice. That is the one field. You don't get to recall the product. You have to get it right the first time.

Melissa Franklin:

So, because of that there is no. Oh well, we didn't know. Like you're required to know and you're underpaid and tough kitties and you just get so used to that that you would think it transfers into the business world. And it's so funny to watch my fellow business owners Like how do you run three businesses the same way? I ran three schools. Like what do you mean? It's the same thing. Like I'm not understanding. The same way we ran three, four classrooms. Like it's the same thing.

Melissa Franklin:

And so many teachers do it and have to build relationships with over a hundred kids every year and deal with their family dynamics and deal with what they need and move those numbers and then still make like five other bosses happy. Yep, a lot of educators don't realize how amazing their skills are. So many educators bring skills and in with their connection and storytelling more than anything. Oh my gosh. Yes, that they leverage those skills in a new context, whether that's a business, role, site, project, whatever the heck they want to step out into. How can they leverage those skills in that new context?

Stacy Eleczko:

So I think you know one of the things I was thinking about when I was in the classroom, whether it was with kids or with teachers. I always started with that end in mind, right? So what is the ultimate thing that I want either kids or instructors to be able to know or do by the time I am done teaching this thing? And so I think it's the same idea when you're thinking about you know what's the goal of in this position. What are the things that you would want to see me know or do? And just recognizing that sort of you know, it's that backward planning that you know as an educator.

Melissa Franklin:

I was just going to say backward planning. That's what I'm thinking I'm like.

Stacy Eleczko:

I'm just going to call it what it is it's backward planning. Don't say the terms, Don't be annoying, but it's backward planning. That's exactly what it is, but it is.

Stacy Eleczko:

Like you. If you're going into entrepreneurship, that's how you have to run your business. What's my goal? What are the things I need to do in order to get myself to that goal? But it's just, we have this skillset. The reason this question is a little bit hard is because I'm thinking even when I first stepped out of the classroom. Now I very, very clearly see how every single skill I had in the classroom is 100% applicable to what I do now.

Stacy Eleczko:

But because we were in the classroom or in the school system, you don't really understand those applications right, and so I would say one of the first things you do maybe then is seek out other teachers who have transitioned out of education, Talk to them, Find out what are the things that you know, what are the skills that you realized were the most beneficial to you. And then, like you said, storytelling is powerful. It's impactful. So when, let's say, you're interviewing for a job and you see that they're looking for you to talk about a certain trait, what's the time that you showed that trait in the classroom? How can you tell that story in a way that relates to whatever this new position is?

Melissa Franklin:

in a way that relates to whatever this new position is, and I think it's something I want to piggyback off of. That is like I think. Sometimes too, we don't give educators the respect that they deserve, so a lot of that fear comes into. I'm just a teacher, so are people going to have respect for me? And it's so funny because when you get in the room with those same people you realize how much higher your skills are, and then that confidence actually gains pretty quickly, as you realize. Nah, I'm pretty edumacated. Okay, I know my stuff. That's beautiful.

Melissa Franklin:

You've been running a business for how long, like what? And it's an eye-opener too. But it's a mindset shift, I guess anything accepting that not everything is dollar for dollar or hour for hour, and it's more finding that pathway and allowing yourself to actually be compensated what the market is, compensated other people rather than what everybody can afford. Because as educators we want to serve everybody and we undercharge so much. It's not even funny.

Melissa Franklin:

Most educators have those master's or secondary degrees and all those other pieces, and yet they're not even getting the credit. And most business owners don't have all that extra education but already put in the man hours in the right field. They're further advanced and it's so funny because it's the same people that end up coaching each other and it's like, wow, why am I coaching a business owner who has all these extra years of experience? Because they found the people like teachers, who have the skills to go do it. So now, as a teacher, have the confidence to stop letting someone else control it and start making those decisions and kind of step outside of it. I I love that, thinking about that, you're more active, like on LinkedIn and social platforms and such Educators entering new fields. I mean educators just wanting to show up on social media. That's something different. What advice would you give for them, as they're building their online presence in a way that truly connects with people?

Stacy Eleczko:

I mean, I think it's the same way you do it with your students in your classroom. It is about building genuine relationships. So you know, I was terrified of networking when I first started teaching because I had this whole old school picture of networking and I know, you know it still works this way sometimes, where you're going to a meeting to hand out a business card and do your pitch and it's uncomfortable, right. And really the best advice I got when I started out is someone said to me you know how to make friends, right? And I said, yeah. She said well, go make business friends. I was like, oh, I can do that. And she's like when you make a new friend, you don't go up to them and be like hi, my name is Stacy and I played tennis for this many years and I did this.

Stacy Eleczko:

That's not how you start a conversation. Don't start conversations in business that way. And so I think you know, just thinking about it's it's just a shift in how you're doing it. Linkedin in particular, it is. It's about building relationships. So you're not out there trying to get leads and make sales and close deals right away, and the other thing is like half of what's on there is crap right. Find. Find the right people to follow, because there's so many people on there using social media as a highlight reel and I'm sorry, but they're the same people who are in my DMS now trying to sell me on things Right Like.

Melissa Franklin:

I'm just like so you got to be in my cold DMS. I promise if you're in marketing and sales and you're as good as you say you are, I will come to you. And if you come to me, do you need my coaching?

Stacy Eleczko:

Most of them are full of it, right, but like just go find the people who aren't right, like see through that piece, there's so many teachers who have transitioned into other roles. Find them, follow them, just sort of get the lay of the land. You know, it's kind of like I think about when I was in the classroom. I would observe my kids and figure out, like let me start to get to know you first of all, and then let me see how you interact, how you're engaging, what things motivate you, what things drive you, what are you talking about? Get in on those conversations, right. And so I would say you know everybody panics with LinkedIn in particular, because I don't know what to post, so don't post anything yet.

Stacy Eleczko:

And also, the other thing is, if you don't have any followers, nobody sees what you're posting anyway, so don't worry about it, Nobody's going to see it. And if they do and it's not that great they're not going to read it anyway. So, like, really, just go experiment, go have fun. It's not a test, there's no grade right, there's no right or wrong answer, but you have to experiment, you have to be willing to put yourself out there. So I would say, find the people in the space that are doing the thing you want to do, Pay attention to how they're doing it and just start engaging with their content. Right, Leave meaningful, thoughtful comments. Engage with other people leaving meaningful, thoughtful comments. Engage with other people leaving meaningful, thoughtful comments. Find the other people who are teachers that have transitioned out, you know. Reach out to them. That's that's what I did.

Stacy Eleczko:

I went and I found all the people who are either doing what I wanted to do or live near where I lived and I was like, hey, I'm a new copywriter, transition teaching. I see you also, you know, did the same. Can we hop on a call? And I did tons and tons of that and then eventually you do start to find your voice and figure it out and you can start playing around and and posting. But, like it's not that serious, nothing that you post on social media, yes, it's there forever, Right, but also it's gone in two minutes. So it's, you know, just just do it, put the effort out there. You have the skills. It's just like the things you had to do in parent conferences and, um, you know when you're getting to, to know and meet your kids. So focus on building relationships and you're not going to go wrong.

Melissa Franklin:

I love that. Um, I feel like nine times out of 10, we're on the spotlight anyway because we're going to say the wrong thing, or I taught math for years so I might write the wrong equation and still get the wrong answer. But like I was just testing you guys, I wanted to make a good job, bravo.

Melissa Franklin:

I'm doing my job as a teacher because you caught it, um, but nobody died and nothing happened. And you know what? I didn't get fired. I was still asked to keep going because nobody else was. So sometimes we overthink those things because of the different judgments and different experiences that we've had in the past. But really the reality is like nothing's going to fall apart if you take that chance and for whatever reason, you're probably the one thing that's in the way of that progress. Thinking of that, for those who are just getting started and they want to build that authenticity, how do they focus on building authenticity that resonates the most with their ideal audience?

Stacy Eleczko:

That's a loaded question, I mean. So I think first you have to figure out like I said before, you just have to be obsessed with your target audience who are those clients that you want to serve and what matters to them. So where are they on LinkedIn? Where are they on whatever social media platform you're going to be on? I mean, I can speak to LinkedIn more, so that's what I'll do but where are they and what are they talking about? What's bothering them, what are their problems? Right, and then also making sure you actually have the solution to the problems that they have. Otherwise they're not your ideal.

Melissa Franklin:

That sucks. Let's find someone for you.

Stacy Eleczko:

Find out where they are, find out and just getting conversations with them. And I think, in particular, if you're going to talk about entrepreneurship, you're not looking for the sale. Don't start off looking for the sale. Right, if you, as you build and grow your expertise and build the relationships, those things will come. I mean, I had the very first in-person networking event that I went to. I was terrified. Got there, looked around, saw someone else who looked terrified. It was also her first event and we were like I just did her website and brand messaging recently, Right, but like I didn't meet her with the intention of, oh, I'm going to, I'm pinpointing you as a potential ideal client, right, but put yourself in the spaces where your ideal clients are Right and you start to get to know them. I love that.

Melissa Franklin:

I think I actually attend some pretty expensive business summits or different things and most of the time I'm trying to find the person who looks just as scared or in the corner as me. I'm like, hi, friend, let's be friends. And by the end of it you find a way to network and connect. And same thing with the teachers. If you knew you were in that space and everybody during PD had that blank stare looking at each other like really, what did they just ask us for? Make friends with them, that's it.

Stacy Eleczko:

And like be okay with being uncomfortable, you're going to be uncomfortable, you're doing something new. You were uncomfortable when you first started teaching too. You didn't know what the hell you were doing, right, like, but what did you do? You stood up there and you pretended like you knew what you were doing. So don't don't offer clients something that you don't know how to do and pretend like you know how to do it. But when it comes, to that.

Stacy Eleczko:

I'm saying that like let's, let's, let's not scam people, but realistically just being confident, and eventually you will be confident and you'll know how to talk about your business.

Melissa Franklin:

I love it. I love it. Well, we definitely have to bring you on for another episode, but thank you so much for sharing about this particular journey and your insights. It's definitely been inspiring to hear what you've learned and what you've taken from education and then implied it over into that business world. A lot of people struggle with that transition, thinking of that Stacey if somebody wants to connect with you, what is the easiest way to find you?

Stacy Eleczko:

Yeah, so LinkedIn is definitely the easiest way to find me. I post content almost every day, so I'm always on there. And then also I have an email list, and that is not just me sending out emails. I really think about that as a community. I send out emails weekly. Those have actionable advice and tips. I reply to every single email Personally. It's me on the other side of that keyboard, and so that's a great place to find me too. And of course, people can go to my website as well. Perfect.

Melissa Franklin:

Well, I need to make sure that we share those in the show notes. So if you guys want to make sure that you find a way to find Stacey, be sure to check the show notes. We will be sharing that there. Thinking of that, is there any other upcoming projects or anything exciting that you want to share with our audience in another way that they might be able to get to know?

Stacy Eleczko:

Yeah, I mean I'm finally leveraging some of my teaching experience and I've been doing workshops and boot camps and things like that, so I've got some fun things in the works. Definitely announce those on LinkedIn in my email list and so you can keep an eye out for those things. And I am also starting to again leverage my teaching and starting to do more speaking opportunities. So I'll be on more stages and things like that in the future as well. But again, I'll share all those with my community.

Melissa Franklin:

I love it. Well, thank you, Stacey. It's been wonderful being here with you and talking about these topics. I think education means a lot to both of us and it's always fun to be able to talk about that with someone else who gets it and who's that space. So thank you so much for sharing that with our audience. For those of you in the audience, be sure to make sure that you check out Stacey's story. Anything you find out inspiring, go ahead and follow her on LinkedIn. Remember, if you're an educator that's looking to find that voice outside the classroom, there are so many ways to make an impact and we're here to help you share those stories. If you'd like to learn more about Stacey and her work, be sure to check out the show notes.

Melissa Franklin:

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